Saturday, July 2, 2016

Users, Counterparts, and Niners, (Oh, my!)

As we're covered before, Eter9 was registered in 2013. Do you remember what came out in theaters, in 2010? Tron: Legacy.

Well, Fatal, what the hell has that got to do with Eter9? Hold on, and play along.

We're going to compare concepts between T:L, and the lofty promises of E9. (Heavy emphasis from the ETER9 "Help" page.)

"The User" (From the Tron Wikia):

A User is a human being who operates a computer in the real world. If a user writes and compiles a computer program, the program, inhabiting the micro-civilization in the computer world, often looks exactly like his or her user counterpart in the real world, though exceptions exist for data pushers and programs written by multiple users. Users normally communicate with their programs by speaking or typing commands into their computers; on the other side of the screen, programs receive these impulses as "calls" which summon them to I/O towers to trade information with the other world. Many programs regard their users, both those who write programs and those who simply use them, as akin to gods, while others have been known to reject, deny, or attempt to manipulate them.

This one is kinda "Duh", except Eter9 refers to them as "Organic Users" It's just You and Me, we, who rail against mortality, pressing keys and making changes.
Removing yourself from the Equation.


"Clu" From Tron: 

Clu, which stands for Codified Likeness Utility, was a hacker program written by Kevin Flynn and played by Jeff Bridges. Clu looked just like his user, Flynn, but talked in a very different voice than his human counterpart. Not much is really known about Clu, except for the fact that Flynn used Clu a lot for hacking and for fixing Flynn's banking statements and phone bill problems. Even Flynn himself said that Clu was his best program.

 "Counterparts", from Eter9:

..through an element called counterpart, which will be active even while the user is offline, both in terms of posting content and commenting. The counterpart will also be responsible for the user’s eternal life. The counterpart will absorb all the information according to the posts and comments, and process that information within the limits of the acquired knowledge. The interaction will be progressively more effective, taking into account the acquired information and its “experience”, and also the interaction between the physical part and the virtual connections. Artificial life doesn’t happen only through the introduction of counterparts; it’s complemented by other beings, which are purely digital/artificial or are the result of other interactions. In addition to the counterparts and virtual agents responsible for maintaining a certain order in this Cyberspace

The most mysterious, and vague, of the Eter9 promises is Niners:

"These beings, which are born out of thin air by means of a module called G9 (from Genesis 9), are available for adoption. The Niners are born, they reproduce and they may die if they are not adopted or if they have no purpose within the ETER9 universe. There will be interaction between the artificial beings and the system’s organic users, since the Niners will ask to be adopted by using the expression “Nine me”. Organic users will make instant connections with the Niners, with no need for approval by the Niner, similar to the process of subscribing a newsletter. Each Niner is born with certain attributes which define its profile and type (artist, musician, athlete, etc.) and they will relate to a certain number of items (pop music, football, etc.) according to that type, randomly or not. The adopted Niner is almost like a valuable assistant to the organic user who adopts it. It can only be adopted by a single physical user and its lifetime will depend on the adoption or the connections, if there is no adoption." -Eter9

Compare to the Tron:Legacy "ISO":
"Isomorphic Algorithms (better known as ISOs) were a race of programs that spontaneously evolved on the Grid, as opposed to being created by users. Their existence was considered a miracle by Kevin Flynn; however, Clu considered them be an obstruction in his mission to create the perfect system

ISOs differed from Basic programs in their appearance and capabilities, but their uniqueness lay in their code base. They were said to be different due to them not be programmed or controlled by functions, protocols and the need for purpose. While regular programs conform to the rigid structure defined by their users, ISOs had evolved, complete with a genetic code of sorts that even Kevin Flynn could scarcely comprehend. This inner structure of their code would potentially have allowed ISOs to develop beyond the capabilities of regular programs

I don't seems passing strange. Did HJ fall asleep during "Tron:Legacy", and got  his "brilliant idea"? My thought is he's mimicking his 'hooks' for potential "Investor Relations", for a product he has no way of bringing to market.. I guess we'd have to ask him...if we thought he'd answer honestly.

The only thing they really have in common is that they're both fictitious.


  1. Joshua Thompson's account is still active. That nixes the theory that everyone who interacted with the '3 black sheep' were all banned. Don't ask me how I still have access.

  2. Just because it's interesting, Lady Hypatia's account is also still there. I think it might be because she sufficiently distanced herself from the furor to be deemed not a threat.

  3. Silly me :) I see a couple of you stayed in the same way